Browserphilia!
tomierna
(Admin)
– December 07, 2007 09:33PM
Does Safari make your soldier salute? Does Camino put the starch in
your shorts, or do you prefer the petit piquancy of OmniWeb's studded rubber
nubs?
Or do you saving a (very) personal space on your Dock for the Mac version
of Opera? Hmmmmmmm?
Cloudscout
– September 26, 2008 10:10AM
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
tliet
– September 26, 2008 10:26AM
When I was reading the article, I was just thinking... Until I read the next page:
For the moment, the best defense against clickjacking attacks is to use Firefox with the NoScript add-on installed. Users running that combination will be safe, said Hansen, against "a very good chunk of the issues, 99.99% at this point."
That's my default combination, it saves me a lot of worries. The next step is of course to do highly sensitive sites only in a clean VM. So, regular browsing in a VM, sensitive browsing to trusted sites in another and local stuff in the local OS. But that goes a little too far for my taste, Noscript is close enough.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/26/2008 10:27AM by tliet.
stan adams
– September 26, 2008 11:12AM
My gut tells me that while this is something that can be dreamed up, to actually implement such a 'hijack' is going to have lot of problems -- I mean visually the attacker would have to know an awful lot about how the user has their machine/desktop/browser configured to "hide" the errant clickable object...
bahamut
– November 29, 2008 06:02AM
http://www.stainlessapp.com/
A new port of Chrome.
Damn but this is nice. I'm using it right now. It's only been five minutes, but the interface is elegant and this is the fastest browser I've seen for the mac. Too bad I can't use any plug-ins or it'd be my bitch.
tomierna
(Admin)
– November 29, 2008 08:06PM
Hideously Unnatural
Baha,
Stainless.app isn't really a Chrome port. It's a WebKit browser which follows Chrome ideology - every pane is a process, etc.
bahamut
– November 29, 2008 09:54PM
Oh that explains some of it. I guess that's good???
tomierna
(Admin)
– November 30, 2008 06:24AM
Hideously Unnatural
Yeah, it's good from the perspective that if one "webpage" crashes or hangs, it's less likely to take down the whole app. Also, slowdowns in one page aren't likely to slow down the whole set of tabs you have open.
rino
– December 07, 2008 05:14AM
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
So I use Fluid to launch Google apps. It's nice and creates a Chrome like environment in that each app is isolated, but, extends the basic Webkit with more features. It's kinda cool.
Came across this:
http://cruzapp.com/ but I don't really know why I'd use it along side my current use of Fluid for big apps, Safari, and Firefox for some other stuff.
El Jeffe
– January 09, 2009 10:37AM
What a journey.
just grabbed the Safari 3.2.1.
Constantly crashed. Luckily, with timemachine, just grabbed the old copy and it worked.
Anyone else crashing under 3.2.1.?
John Willoughby
– January 09, 2009 10:42AM
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Not I.
Cloudscout
– February 24, 2009 06:45AM
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
Safari 4 Beta is available.
I can't speak for its performance yet. As soon as it launched I was irritated. It generates a "Top Sites" view that shows you thumbnails of your most frequently visited web pages. That was a REALLY bad idea. For example, the "Check Subscriptions" link for Spork was one of them on mine. It showed a tiny view of whatever the page was with new posts but when I clicked on it to see them, it reloaded the page so now I don't know what posts I missed.
God forbid I should have a page that might perform some kind of permanent task that I'd prefer the browser not to do on its own.
John Willoughby
– February 24, 2009 06:48AM
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Safari 4 on Windows is a noticeable improvement over previous versions. The top sites page took a long time to load, though. I doubt I'll use it much.
Cloudscout
– February 24, 2009 06:53AM
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
I am definitely seeing a major performance boost. I think caching was horribly broken in Safari 3 (judging by the incessant churning of my hard drive while browsing). It would appear they have fixed that.
The new UI is... interesting. Handling tabs in the title bar instead of underneath the bookmarks bar is a bold change. It does save screen real-estate and my initial impression of it is positive. Sure, it's yet another conflagration of HID standards but that's pretty much par for the course these days.
Cloudscout
– February 24, 2009 07:36AM
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
Gizmodo's First Impressions on Safari 4 are spot-on in my opinion.
I'm at the office right now and just installed the Windows version. This is a dramatic improvement over previous Windows versions of Safari.
rino
– February 24, 2009 07:50AM
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
Breaks ~15 years of browser muscle memory by (re)moving the reload button. Now it appears in the URL field just like on mobile safari. You can't add a reload button to the tool bar.
Better font rendering possible in WIndows Safari if you turn it on... Font rendering in windows web browsers always seems broken to me, Safari makes it work.
I sort of like top sites.
Tab interface is a nice evolutionary design choice. I watch people browse and they don't really grasp the concept of tabs much less see them...
---edit
And yes! the safari mac flash blocker still works -- suwheet.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/24/2009 07:52AM by rino.
Cloudscout
– February 24, 2009 07:57AM
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
Agreed on the reload button. Now they've combined the twirly flower with the stop and reload buttons. When they first combined stop and reload, I thought it was a good idea. Now I hate it (especially on the iPhone). Far, far too many times I've tried to hit the stop button JUST as it was finishing the page load... which ends up causing the opposite of what I wanted since I end up triggering a reload instead of stopping the current page load.
I don't like having the "New Tab" button at the far right of the title bar like that. I'd prefer to have it next to the address bar.
John Willoughby
– February 24, 2009 08:02AM
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Agreed on reload button. It has crashed once on Windows, and I could not restart the app without rebooting. Acceptable for a beta, but they'd better fix that.
El Jeffe
– February 24, 2009 08:02AM
What a journey.
I just downloaded and installed Camino and Opera. I noticed the tiny preview pane was a feature in one of them. It was rather annoying.
El Jeffe
– February 24, 2009 08:04AM
What a journey.
Before I try this, can one have both Safaris installed? If I install the Beta, my wife might not like it.
John Willoughby
– February 24, 2009 08:08AM
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
On Windows, it installed over Safari 3. There can be only one!
