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tomierna's Avatar Picture tomierna (Admin) – December 07, 2007 09:33PM Reply Quote
Does Safari make your soldier salute? Does Camino put the starch in
your shorts, or do you prefer the petit piquancy of OmniWeb's studded rubber
nubs?

Or do you saving a (very) personal space on your Dock for the Mac version
of Opera? Hmmmmmmm?

Mokers (Moderator) – September 02, 2008 08:12AM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin
Well, the page rendering shouldn't be that much different because they are using webkit Sounds like most of their accomplishments will be on the JS end.

stan adams – September 02, 2008 08:25AM Reply Quote
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Mokers
Well, the page rendering shouldn't be that much different because they are using webkit Sounds like most of their accomplishments will be on the JS end.

EXACTAMUNDO! It is sort of brilliant move. This pretty much leaves MSFT as the "nonstandard" page rendering scheme. The googlers have a lot going for 'em. The comic details their ability to use the googlebots to scan unprecedents numbers of sites for compatability, they have world class talent to work on the isolation of the JS processing, they have lots of mental horsepower to throw at VM issuses, security, and of course the goodwill they get from opensourcing the whole shebang. I know that the "buy in" from plugin developers will be a huge factor, and they must too. Similarly the benefit to people outside of google docs from gears is yet to be realized.

I gotta think there are few sad/pissed off people at Opera seeing that the 3x3 thumbnail view is the default new tab...

I wonder is Apple will de-emphasis Safari internally -- the render is really all Steve cared about, I think. He has that now, right?

tliet – September 02, 2008 11:17AM Reply Quote
Now running Chrome and the advertisements seem true (for now). I just terminated several Chrome processes and it neatly reported that Flash crashed (on a webpage), killing the plugin but the page still displayed.

No way to make out specific processes and the pages they are displaying tho.

A neat trick I discovered in Firefox 3 a few days back is if one zooms in on a webpage, it will remember that setting later on when the page is visited again. Say, your reading the NYT site in a zoomed in setting it will remember that setting later on when you visit the NYT site again.

Mokers (Moderator) – September 02, 2008 11:31AM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin
Chrome seems to work fine. I am not sure if this would kill Safari on Mac OS, but it will probably kill Safari on Windows (not that anybody would be bothered).

tliet – September 02, 2008 11:37AM Reply Quote
Oh yes, definitely. Safari on Windows feels so out of place, Chrome is a much nicer Windows citizen. It's not that I hate the OS X look, far from it. It just feels out of place on Windows.

Chrome is probably still using debugging code as I don't find it particularly fast...



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Cloudscout – September 02, 2008 11:39AM Reply Quote
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
The OSX look in Windows doesn't bother me. There are just too many bugs, especially with window handling. It doesn't play nice with other Windows apps.

Simon – September 02, 2008 04:08PM Reply Quote
Bah. the tabs are too tall and sit about half way into the title bar. this means that half the time i go to move the window i grab a tab instead. bad google.

And I know you think its important to put a shortcut on the desktop but I happen to know how to use the start menu so please let me turn that shit off.



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tliet – September 02, 2008 07:41PM Reply Quote
It's pretty polished for a 0.2 version if you ask me. There could be some improvements made in the speed department but in general it's quite a nice browser. I do miss Adblock and Noscript tho.

stan adams – September 03, 2008 05:46AM Reply Quote
The need for Noscript is sorta the reason that the google Chrome team exists -- google has essentially done an end-run to rearchitect and re-engineer the entire scripty level guts so that Javascript is as usable as they need it to be...

The absence of Adblock is another story -- personally I have absoluetely NO PROBLEM AT ALL with a nice sane advertisment (like say one for B&H, thanks for the sponsorship/linking), but obnoxious ads filled with sounds and imagines that completely interupt my browsing experience is another story -- coupled with the shitty bandwidth ad servers that some firms have, resulting in a horrendously slow page load it is no wonder that Adblokc is as popular as it is. Now, if everyone uses nice high throughput links, and the idiot "used car seller mindset" marketers are driven out there is no reason to 'bust up' google's ad driven model...

tliet – September 03, 2008 06:00AM Reply Quote
Noscript is used mainly to block rogue scripts, I don't use it to block slow running sites.

John Willoughby – September 03, 2008 06:44AM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius

tliet – September 03, 2008 09:02AM Reply Quote
I guess it's the standard EULA that they use for everything, read the EULA on https://www.google.com/accounts/NewAccount

John Willoughby – September 03, 2008 10:42AM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Oh, well, that's fine then.

Simon – September 03, 2008 04:21PM Reply Quote
I doubt they would ever be able to enforce something like that. Especially on material that is already copyrighted.

John Willoughby – September 03, 2008 06:41PM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
The neighbor says he owns your car because it was under a branch from tree planted in his yard. I doubt he'll try to enforce it, though, so you're fine.



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Madaracs – September 09, 2008 06:30AM Reply Quote
Ooh! Scary! Scary! Don't we look mean? You can't see me! But I can see you!
Google is just slowly working their way backwards from Search engine, to (goo)browser and then.... GoogleOS. Will it be pronounced "Googly-ohs?"

1 followed by 1000 zeros. Is this a monetary goal or a result of a complex algorithmic function call?

Simon – September 09, 2008 10:01PM Reply Quote
Heh, so Google never really intended to release a browser, it was just a typo in the page rank algorithm that went unnoticed for while. By the time they caught it The browser had been released already.

Jeff Cooper – September 11, 2008 08:26AM Reply Quote
I can't get Chrome to install properly--it's apparently the result of my having Symantec Endpoint Protection installed. I get a message stating that the program failed to initialize properly.

I do give Google credit for their error page, the only page I am able to access:



Sad Mac, anyone?

tliet – September 11, 2008 12:52PM Reply Quote
yep, nice touch. Even the mouth is uneven, just like the original.

tliet – September 18, 2008 10:49PM Reply Quote
DPBD

WebKit's JavaScript engine has been updated once again; SquirrelFish Extreme.

SunSpider Benchmarks:

SquirrelFish Extreme:..........943.3 ms
V8:........................................1280.6 ms
TraceMonkey:...................1464.6 ms

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