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            <description><![CDATA[ Hmmm... at the moment markets seem very much a case of "markets just seem to keep going up until one day they don’t."<br />
<br />
Wyrd is <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/10/us-eu-imbalnaces-idUSBRE9390HI20130410">France is in trouble</a> - serious trouble that may rear its head in the next 6 months...]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Tony Leggett</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ DPBD!<br />
<br />
If you like the idea, you can <a href="http://signon.org/sign/nominate-paul-krugman?source=c.url&amp;r_by=1135580">sign the petition...</a>]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Tony Leggett</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jan/05/paul-krugman-obama-treasury-secretary">Oh good God, this would be FANTASTIC!</a><br />
<br />
Unfortunately, <a href="http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/07/the-outside-man/">Krugman ain't interested...</a>]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Tony Leggett</dc:creator>
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            <title>Re: Magic numbers: retirement/investment coffers</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/couples-567m-innovation-lost-in-banker-black-hole-20120716-2253o.html">Goldman Sachs company motto: "Do be evil."</a>]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Tony Leggett</dc:creator>
            <category>Spork Central</category>
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            <description><![CDATA[ To be fair, most investment banks have a rather negative view of their clients. <br />
<br />
I am a reluctant client of Macquarie Bank, aka "<a href="http://www.themonthly.com.au/monthly-essays-gideon-haigh-who-s-afraid-macquarie-bank-story-millionaire-s-factory-571">The millionaires factory</a>" (for management, not clients) because I need access to a comprehensive wrap fund for my allocated pension.<br />
<br />
I am sure there are people who reluctantly use Goldman Sachs for similar reasons]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Tony Leggett</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Apparently, a lot of their clients agree with Goldman Sachs' critics.  But they feel that the size and power of Goldman Sachs allows them access to opportunities that they would not get otherwise.  (I'm guessing IPO's and that sort of thing.)  In other words, even the scraps from the GS trough are lucrative enough to keep them involved.  I find it hard to believe, but it's not my field.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>John Willoughby</dc:creator>
            <category>Spork Central</category>
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            <title>Re: Magic numbers: retirement/investment coffers</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ DPBD<br />
<br />
I think I'll ping our HR department to have them look into the funds our pension fund invests in.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>tliet</dc:creator>
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            <title>Re: Magic numbers: retirement/investment coffers</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ It's all so predictable, even the reaction of the bank:<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>From the Rolling Stone article</strong><br/>
Update: Well, the blowback is already here. The Wall Street Journal this morning has stooped already to helping Goldman smear Smith. Here's <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2012/03/14/goldman-rejects-claims-made-by-disgruntled-executive/"  rel="nofollow">their take:</a><br />
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     Goldman is taking issue with other elements of Mr. Smith’s piece.<br />
<br />
    <i>“We disagree with the views expressed, which we don’t think reflect the way we run our business,” a Goldman spokeswoman said. “In our view, we will only be successful if our clients are successful.  This fundamental truth lies at the heart of how we conduct ourselves.”<br />
<br />
    Mr. Smith described himself as an executive director and head of Goldman’s U.S. equity derivatives business in Europe, the Middle East and Africa.<br />
<br />
    A person familiar with the matter said Mr. Smith’s role is actually vice president, a relatively junior position held by thousands of Goldman employees around the world. And Mr. Smith is the only employee in the derivatives business that he heads, this person said.</i><br />
<br />
You just knew that sooner or later, the bank was going to come out and say that Smith was actually a janitor in Goldman's Mozambique office or something. It's just surprising they did it so quickly.<br />
<br />
Anyone who reads these critiques and even thinks about believing them should go back and look at Senator Levin's report on Goldman. There's backup in there for all of Smith's allegations, from the bit about the axes to the derogatory comments about clients (only in the Levin report, they weren't "muppets," but a "white elephant, flying pig, and unicorn all at once"). All of this is in internal emails that were published long ago. The only difference now is that it's coming from one of Goldman's own people.</div></blockquote>
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<br />
Read <a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-20100405"  rel="nofollow">this article</a> of a few years back yesterday on Rolling Stone. Colourful language, but then again, there are no words colourful enough to describe the bank. The thing is, why do we/the general public still trust/believe these people?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>tliet</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Rolling Stone article about same:<br />
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<a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/a-goldman-executives-brave-departure-20120314"  rel="nofollow">http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/a-goldman-executives-brave-departure-20120314</a>]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Tony Leggett</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 03:14:25 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Magic numbers: retirement/investment coffers</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/14/opinion/why-i-am-leaving-goldman-sachs.html"  rel="nofollow">Why I am leaving Goldman Sachs.</a> <br />
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I'm sure the <s>propaganda</s> PR department will come out with a statement any moment now that the bank doesn't recognise itself in the story told and that they wish Mr. Smith all the best in finding another job.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>tliet</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ that's what I thought. But i've never done it.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>El Jeffe</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ You can get one free each year from each of the major bureaus. The score included is not usually FICO though; that still seems tricky to get.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>porruka</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ kinda related.<br />
Any suggestions on getting a free, CONFIDENTIAL, non-scam, non-SPAM, credit score?<br />
I've never tried.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>El Jeffe</dc:creator>
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            <title>Re: Magic numbers: retirement/investment coffers</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong></strong><br/>The overall financial services sector was disproportionately hit by the financial crisis. The sector employs just 12 percent of the city’s work force, but accounted for one out of every three jobs lost in the recession. Some (not all) of those jobs were regained, but the comptroller’s office says the industry “is likely to experience significant job losses over the course of the next year.”<br />
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In particular, the securities sub-sector of financial services “could lose an additional 10,000 jobs by the end of 2012, which would bring total job losses in the industry to 32,000 since January 2008,” the report said.</div></blockquote>
<br />
Of course the 'industry' has been hit hardest proportionally. It was created out of thin air making products out of thin air...]]></description>
            <dc:creator>tliet</dc:creator>
            <category>Spork Central</category>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I noticed one commenter on this page....<br />
<a href="http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/12/hard-times-on-wall-street/"  rel="nofollow">http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/12/hard-times-on-wall-street/</a><br />
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<img src="http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/4581/screenshot20111016at928.png" class="bbcode" border="0" /><br />
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The alluded to article is interesting.<br />
<a href="http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/11/bankers-salaries-vs-everyone-elses/"  rel="nofollow">http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/11/bankers-salaries-vs-everyone-elses/</a><br />
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<img src="http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/10/11/business/economy/economix-11securities/economix-11securities-custom1.jpg" class="bbcode" border="0" />]]></description>
            <dc:creator>El Jeffe</dc:creator>
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            <title>Re: Magic numbers: retirement/investment coffers</title>
            <link>http://www.macedition.com/forums/read.php?4,665,34195#msg-34195</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ <a href="http://www.avaaz.org/en/eu_people_vs_banks/?cl=1303920774&amp;v=10566"  rel="nofollow">http://www.avaaz.org/en/eu_people_vs_banks/?cl=1303920774&amp;v=10566</a>]]></description>
            <dc:creator>El Jeffe</dc:creator>
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            <title>Re: Magic numbers: retirement/investment coffers</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ TPBD!<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.smh.com.au/business/toxic-rembrandts--ratings-agency-sandbagged-20111004-1l71d.html"  rel="nofollow">http://www.smh.com.au/business/toxic-rembrandts--ratings-agency-sandbagged-20111004-1l71d.html</a><br />
<br />
<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong></strong><br/>According to an email found in pre-trial discovery, one employee of S&amp;P chided another, writing, “You are the wuss for bending over in front of bankers and taking it… You rate something AAA, when it is really A-?”</div></blockquote>
<br />
I hope the ratings agencies have DEEP pockets<br />
<br />
Oh, and on a tangent:<br />
<br />
<b>Europe's problems summed up</b><br />
<br />
Pythagorean theorem:                                              24 words<br />
Lord’s prayer:                                                         66 words<br />
Archimedes’ Principle:                                             67 words<br />
Ten Commandments:                                             179 words<br />
Gettysburg address:                                               286 words<br />
US Declaration of Independence:                        1,300 words<br />
US Constitution with all 27 Amendments:            7,818 words<br />
EU regulations on the sale of cabbage:               26,911 words<br />
<br />
This bailout superfund that they've announced the other day (the EFSF) is relying for its leverage on the very financial instrument that lead to the 2008 crisis: Collateralised Debt Obligations...]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Tony Leggett</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 03:56:24 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Magic numbers: retirement/investment coffers</title>
            <link>http://www.macedition.com/forums/read.php?4,665,34037#msg-34037</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ DPBD!<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/monster-gains-in-us-bonds-surprise-traders-20110926-1kt3i.html">I smell an enron-sized rat...</a>]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Tony Leggett</dc:creator>
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            <title>Re: Magic numbers: retirement/investment coffers</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creditanstalt"  rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creditanstalt</a><br />
<br />
This phrase is being thrown around a bit today...]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Tony Leggett</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Well, there's <a href="http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/02/15/131934618/the-island-of-stone-money">this</a>.  It's an open currency... you can stick your arm through it!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>John Willoughby</dc:creator>
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            <title>Re: Magic numbers: retirement/investment coffers</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I more-real one. :)]]></description>
            <dc:creator>El Jeffe</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 16:20:57 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Magic numbers: retirement/investment coffers</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/08/the-bitcoin-economy-is-collapsing-with-no-sign-of-recovery/243253/">There is.  It hasn't been working out all that well.</a>]]></description>
            <dc:creator>John Willoughby</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 12:20:02 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Magic numbers: retirement/investment coffers</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I agree Tony. I think we and other countries would be better off without 'wall street' and some of the things they do. Can't there be an open source money/currency et al?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>El Jeffe</dc:creator>
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            <title>Re: Magic numbers: retirement/investment coffers</title>
            <link>http://www.macedition.com/forums/read.php?4,665,33369#msg-33369</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ DPBD!<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/is-the-sec-covering-up-wall-street-crimes-20110817">Sickening...</a>]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Tony Leggett</dc:creator>
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            <title>Re: Magic numbers: retirement/investment coffers</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hmmm. There must be a lot of cashed-up investors in Australia waiting for a "bargain." Every time the All Ords drops below a key number (4200 and 4000 seem the rough numbers) it bounces back up as people snap up "bargains."<br />
<br />
I remember people talking about "bargain" shares in early 2008 when the All-Ords was 6000 though.<br />
<br />
I wish I'd convinced my Dad to cash out last year but no, he wanted to "wait &amp; see..."]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Tony Leggett</dc:creator>
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            <title>Re: Magic numbers: retirement/investment coffers</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Ah, forgot about the one remove.  Still, sorry to hear about your mysterious re-evaluation.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>John Willoughby</dc:creator>
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            <title>Re: Magic numbers: retirement/investment coffers</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Heh, no.  That would be the client, not my employer.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Cloudscout</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 19:13:39 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Magic numbers: retirement/investment coffers</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Maybe there's a fear that they'll be stuck with a lot of WebOS devices.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>John Willoughby</dc:creator>
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            <title>Re: Magic numbers: retirement/investment coffers</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I'm curious why my employer's stock ended the day with a 10.38% drop.  I don't see any news to explain it.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Cloudscout</dc:creator>
            <category>Spork Central</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 18:35:40 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Magic numbers: retirement/investment coffers</title>
            <link>http://www.macedition.com/forums/read.php?4,665,33254#msg-33254</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Never a dull moment.<br />
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<img src="http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/261/screenshot20110818at102.png" class="bbcode" border="0" />]]></description>
            <dc:creator>El Jeffe</dc:creator>
            <category>Spork Central</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:21:24 -0400</pubDate>
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